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Prayer Banned From N.C. Capitol for Using Jesus’ Name

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QUOTE: “My response to her was I am a Christian, and as a Christian I too can be offended, and I am offended if I cannot pray in the name of Jesus.” —Ron Baity, the pastor of Berean Baptist Church in Forsyth County, N.C., who was told that he could not use the name of Jesus in his opening prayer for the North Carolina House of Representatives because it may offend some in attendance. Baity was invited to give the opening prayer at the House session but had to submit it in writing first. Upon review, he was told he needed to drop the phrase “In the name of Jesus.” For many years the house has requested, but not required, pastors to deliver nonsectarian prayers. Because of Baity’s complaint, it is considering banning all prayers before sessions. [journalnow.com, 7/9/10]

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-8 #9 Pastor F C Rochester 2010-07-17 16:36 I should have known that anytime someone that professes to play the devil's advocate, is the just that. When someone plays the attorney of the devil in defense of devils, it is clear that you had better watch out. Like Pastor Eric had said, devils hate Jesus and what is back of that name. So I will continue to defy those that advocate for the devil and pray just like like Jesus told us to pray. In my name cast out devils, in my name speak with new tongues, in my name will never go away no matter what. So Father, in Jesus' name, I thank you that the name of your Son was given to us because our name is no where good enough to reach Your throne. I ask You, Father, in the mighty, matchless name of Jesus. And those that agree with this prayer said… Quote
 
 
-7 #8 Pastor Eric S 2010-07-16 12:38 The trouble with the name of Jesus. The devil and his minions know there is power in the name of Jesus. Why is the name of Jesus so offensive anyway, well…Jesus said the world hated Him and they would hate us who follow Him as well. So we should not be surprised when we are hated for our message and our stand. But one thing in closing, the message of Jesus is hated, because it is truth and every other attempt by man to reach God the Father is false religion. Sorry, Jesus declared that He was the Way, the Truth and the Life and no one makes it to the Father except through Him. So…that pretty much sums it up, Regardless of whether the message is accepted or not, we are called to declare it, Fear not what man can do to you, but rather fear what God can do to you, those were the words of Jesus Christ. Quote
 
 
+7 #7 Tommy Cartwright 2010-07-14 17:48 Rebuttal taken off internet
In several passages from the Gospel of John, Jesus instructs us to pray in his name.

This command has led many Christians to end their prayers with something like "in Jesus's name" or "through Christ our Lord" before they say "Amen."

I often end my prayers with "in Jesus's name." But when Jesus told us to pray in his name, he wasn't talking about the words with which we end our prayers. Perhaps the clearest proof of this comes in the prayer we call The Lord's Prayer, found in different versions in Matthew 6:9-13 and Luke 11:2-4. In neither of these exemplary prayers does Jesus end with "in my name" or something like that. In Luke 11, Jesus continues to teach about prayer, urging us to be persistent (vv. 5- and confident (vv. 9-13) when we pray. But nowhere does he say we should speak his name in order to get our prayers heard.
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-9 #6 Pastor F C Rochester 2010-07-14 11:02 To Tommy, It is not out of tradition we use the name of Jesus. It is out of what the Lord Jesus Christ clearly established in John 14:13-14. Verse 14 stands out. "If you ask anything in My name, I will do it." And John 16:23, "whatever you ask the Father in My name He will give you." Respectfully, Paul is not the Lord nor is Paul the Head of the Church, and Paul didn't alter the rules of prayer. It is firmly and irrevocably established by the Head of the Church. In answer to your question. Based on the rule established by the Head of the Church in two places. No. Without invoking His name, prayer cannot be answered. In Ephesians 3:21, Paul invokes the name of Jesus in another way in his doxology. "by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever amen." No doubt that this qualifies as praying to the Father by Christ Jesus is equivalent to "in the name." Quote
 
 
+5 #5 Tommy Cartwright 2010-07-14 07:06 Just to play the devils advocate here, although I am a Christ follower, would it really hurt just to pray without ending a prayer in Jesus Name? I can't find any of Paul's prayers that are recorded in the New Testament that end with "in Jesus name", can you?

In understand the theology behind it but am concerned for some people the use use of such a phrase is born more out of tradition than theology. Will God hear and answer my prayer without saying "in Jesus name" at the end. Absolutely.
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-3 #4 John Andersen 2010-07-13 12:28 With all due respect to the North Carolina Legislature, what other kind of prayer do you think a Christian can pray? I'm a bit tired of these namby pamby "to whom it may concern" prayers. It seems to me that they are useless at best and borderline blasphemy at worst, taking God's name vainly. You could pray a perfectly non-sectarian prayer. It goes something like this: "Hickory Dickory Dock, God went up the clock." It's nonsectarian—but it's also nonsensical—and not in a humorous way. Quote
 
 
-2 #3 Arising Glory 2010-07-13 12:10 That certainly does not mean that we should back down!

Prayers "in Jesus' Name" got us here with the MANY blessings we have had.

They can get over it while they enjoy what was prayed in.
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0 #2 Joy Thompson 2010-07-13 11:54 It is a very sad and grievous time that we are living in. I shared this situation with my 8-year old and she said "That's not right Mommy." Even she knows how important "the name of Jesus" is.

This is further evidence that Jesus truly is Lord. No one fights to ban any other name…just the name of Jesus. Could it be because there is POWER in the name?
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-1 #1 Pastor F C Rochester 2010-07-13 11:38 This is a clear indication that this nation is a nation that is becoming "One nation over God." or "One nation serving a devil god." It is also another indication that this generation could be the generation that sneers its nose at God and openly blaspheme Him. These are the days of Noah and Lot. Let's be salt and light in the earth. In Jesus' name, we will not back down. Never! www.prevailingwordbiblechurch.org Quote
 

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